Joined: Jul 7, 2003 Posts: 1267 Location: Boise, ID, USA
Posted: Sun Jan 01, 2006 10:01 pm Post subject:
Just off the top of my head, it seems like either the monitor is incorrectly configured or SUSE improperly detected your video card. Can you tell us a little more about the installation process? Did you have any problems with the install?
When you say it won't load, you mean the OS won't load at all? If that's the case, you probably want to put in the first install CD and attempt to do a repair. I know that SUSE sometimes doesn't like certain video cards. One of our other members discovered this. Here's his thread for reference:
I also looked up some information regarding how to install SUSE 10.0. While the SUSE installer is supposed to be incredibly easy to use, it's possible that something was misconfigured during the process. See if either of these two links help.
Joined: Jul 7, 2003 Posts: 1267 Location: Boise, ID, USA
Posted: Sun Jan 01, 2006 11:51 pm Post subject:
As near as I can tell, your Xwindow (GUI) is trying to use a higher refresh rate than your monitor can handle. I found someone that had a problem similar to yours. Once you click on the link, scroll down until you get to the Video and Monitor section. The solution will require you to have shell access to the SUSE box and be able to edit a text file using a text editor such as vi.
You'll need to reduce the refresh rate for Xwindows to load. Worst case scenario is that you could destroy your monitor. Let us know if any of this helps or if you have any other questions. _________________
Joined: Aug 23, 2005 Posts: 391 Location: Greensboro, NC, USA
Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2006 2:08 am Post subject:
Luckily, most modern monitors won't die if you configure it incorrectly, they'll post a message along the lines of "Can't display this video mode." However, older monitors can die quite nastily.
I have installed Ubuntu on a VM, and I did a minimal install and am now trying to get a GUI up and going...something isn't quite right. What is saving me over there? LYNX...haha, I could have used that numerous times in the past.
It sounds like one possible problem is that you can't edit with vi because you can't get past the warning message on the monitor. Since you obviously have access to another PC, do a search for the required refresh rate for your monitor and print out that info. This could require a reinstall, which isn't such a bad thing since you've just installed it and don't have anything to lose.
If, however, you're able to get to a login screen or emergency command terminal, you might try editing the config file. It's great practice and a great way to get some good experience.
I think my problems with SUSE were the same as with Ubuntu. SUSE was fine with the onboard video, but cards were killing it. With Ubuntu, the OS would use the card, but it would identify the chipset as the onboard video. That caused OS confusion and it was a pain to get a GUI, and virtually impossible to get direct rendering. Unfortunately, there's no option in my BIOS (Dell Dimension 2400) to turn off the onboard video...I guess they figured you wouldn't need it since it doesn't have an AGP slot.
Joined: Jul 7, 2003 Posts: 1267 Location: Boise, ID, USA
Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2006 1:29 pm Post subject:
I found someone else with the same problem while trying to install SUSE 9.1. They can run Windows XP just fine on the same computer and monitor. Looks like they found a solution. Here's the link:
What video card are you running and what monitor are you using? Exact model numbers would be nice.
It sounds to me as if Suse is either not recognizing hardware correctly or something in the install is corrupted. Having the exact model numbers on the hardware would make it much easier to research this. The way it is we have little if anything to go on.
Joined: Aug 23, 2005 Posts: 391 Location: Greensboro, NC, USA
Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2006 2:35 pm Post subject:
Also, please post the interface type: PCI, AGP ?x, PCI-Express, or onboard. Also, if you are using a discrete video card, does the motherboard also offer onboard graphics? How about the motherboard model itself? CPU? Any and all info would be helpful.
I can appreciate your frustration and every operating system, Linux distribution has its own quirks and from time to time you get bitten by them. I have been using SUSE exclusively for many years and I wouldn't switch unless someone forced me. This kind of problem is not limited to just SUSE.
As suggested, the "out of range" message is coming from the monitor and not Linux. Its saying that the GUI is trying to use a video mode (i.e. a refresh rate that it does not support. Unfortunately, laptops in general are tricky to install.
Boot the system and when it gets to the boot prompt add "single" to the boot string. Whether you are using grub or lilo there will be an option to specify addition parameters. This brings you into single user mode.
Once there you can run xf86config to set the various parameters including the refresh rate. Make sure you know exactly what you monitor can support. I would first try a rate that is lower that you think your card can handle. Make sure you have your manual handy so you know your monitor horizontal synchronization rate (HSYNC), vertical refresh rate (VFSH), and video buffer memory.
I would suggest making a backup of /etc/X11/xorg.conf beforehand just to be safe.
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