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tpryde4
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 10:19 pm    Post subject: Fedora 8 Reply with quote

Hi everyone.

A couple days ago me, my dad, and my grandpa put Fedora 8 on my Dell Inpiron 1420 laptop (which originally had Windows Vista) and created a dual-boot system that, on starting up, opens up GRUB so I can choose which operating system I want to start in (Windows\Fedora). I decided I wanted to use an open-source 3-d modeling/rendering program called Blender in the Linux platform because Linux is better for that sort of process. When I downloaded the tar.gz file and then tried to run it in Fedora, it wouldn't do anything. The computer just sat there, which is an extremely aggravating experience when you repeat the process over and over again, trying to get it to work. I would like information on how to install programs, run them, and also the URL pointing to where a least some of the program is stored.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 12:50 am    Post subject: Re: Fedora 8 Reply with quote

tpryde4 wrote:
Hi everyone.

A couple days ago me, my dad, and my grandpa put Fedora 8 on my Dell Inpiron 1420 laptop (which originally had Windows Vista) and created a dual-boot system that, on starting up, opens up GRUB so I can choose which operating system I want to start in (Windows\Fedora). I decided I wanted to use an open-source 3-d modeling/rendering program called Blender in the Linux platform because Linux is better for that sort of process. When I downloaded the tar.gz file and then tried to run it in Fedora, it wouldn't do anything. The computer just sat there, which is an extremely aggravating experience when you repeat the process over and over again, trying to get it to work. I would like information on how to install programs, run them, and also the URL pointing to where a least some of the program is stored.

Thanks,

tpryde4


If you're a complete newbie to Linux I would recommend that you delete the manual install of Blender and find a .rpm binary package to install. I would imagine that Blender will be found in Fedora's software repositories and that's where I would look first. Use the automated software installer that comes with Fedora. I believe it's called yum.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 12:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree with ffreeloader. Unless you know how to unzip and install a tarball, trying to just run it, will yield no results. Use the YUM package manager that comes with Fedora to install Blender. It'll be much more effective.

Here's a brief tutorial on how to use YUM on the command line:

http://www.ctunion.com/node/54

Also, here's the "unofficial" Fedora FAQ page for reference:

http://www.fedorafaq.org/

Let us know if you have more questions. Cheers. Smile

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tpryde4
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 5:54 pm    Post subject: .rpm Reply with quote

Thanks for the information, ffreeloader and trip.

To show you exactly what a newbie I am, what's an .rpm binary?

I downloaded the .rpm version of Blender, but I don't know how to install it.

tpryde4

(By the way, the first file extension that I downloaded was .tar.bz2, instead of .tar.gz. *oops*)
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 6:13 pm    Post subject: Re: .rpm Reply with quote

tpryde4 wrote:
Thanks for the information, ffreeloader and trip.

To show you exactly what a newbie I am, what's an .rpm binary?

I downloaded the .rpm version of Blender, but I don't know how to install it.

tpryde4

(By the way, the first file extension that I downloaded was .tar.bz2, instead of .tar.gz. *oops*)


Look around your installation and find Yum. It's RedHat's package management system. Blender is GPL'ed so it should be in the software repositories and once you tell Yum to go get it, Yum will download it and install it.

If you're having this much trouble finding your way around Fedora go to their site and start reading their newbie guides. I'm sure they have some, or will even have some type of system documentation readily available to you in your installation.

Just start looking and poking around inside your system. That's the best way to learn.

I'm not a Fedora/RedHat/CentOS user so I can't help that much with their package management system, but I do know they have a gui wizard for installing software.

You're going at everything the hard way. Most Linux distributions have their own software depositories that hold lots of software. The distribution's software management system is configured by default to install software from them.

This isn't like Windows where you need to go search the internet to find software to install. That's how everything is done in Windows, but it's the exception to the rule to have to do that in Linux. Linux has far better software management tools than Windows does. They are just foreign to Windows users because Windows doesn't have anything like it. 90% of what you need/want will be available right from Yum.

I use Debian. It uses apt-get to install software, and the Debian repositories have more than 18,000 software packages available in them. I just use the tools in the system to find and install software. I rarely have to search the internet for software.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 1:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just to add to ffreeloader's commentary, the instructions on how to find the GUI interface for the YUM package manager are here:

http://www.fedorafaq.org/#yumgui

Don't worry about anything "tar.gz" or "tar.bz2" (they're different file compression methods). You can probably delete that package, since YUM will install Blender for you more efficiently.

Just go to the link above and follow the instructions to launch the YUM interface. After that, it should be more or less apparent how to request that Blender be installed. If not, post back with the details of what you see when you launch the YUM interface.

Like ffreeloader, my experience is primarily with Debian and Ubuntu, which both use apt-get. I also use the Synaptic package management system on Ubuntu, which is a handy GUI interface.

Let us know how you get on.
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